Cameo Fantasy III
05-14-2011, 11:51 PM
If I understand your intentions, you want to do a tribute to JRPGS. If so, why did you leave Persona 4, Mario RPGS, Lufia, and Earthbound to such minor roles? You have 2 characters from Dissigea playable. Mr. Saturn for Ghosts? It could work. Why are you fighting Ness anyways? Is he possesed? Also what do you have for Espers? You could Represent any left over games using those.
Esper Suggestions:
The Dark Dragon (Mother 3): A good replacement for Crusader. His abilities were sealed away by the needles in Mother 3. In the games ending, it used an attack which assimilated the whole world. No one lived except Lucas, Porky, Kumatora, Duster, Flint, Claus, and Boney.
Various Personas OF THE CHARACTERS IN YOUR HACK! (Persona series/Various Series): It is said to be the characters inner strength. You could use it to complete your characters development.
Legendary Pokemon (Pokemon): They are Pokemon, and they are Legendary.
Geno (Mario RPG): GENO WHIRL!
GILGAMESH (FINAL FANTASY V): If you keep any summon, make it Gilgamesh.
Buriki Daioh (Live A Live): A Giant Freaking Mech. Make it happen.
Esper Suggestions:
The Dark Dragon (Mother 3): A good replacement for Crusader. His abilities were sealed away by the needles in Mother 3. In the games ending, it used an attack which assimilated the whole world. No one lived except Lucas, Porky, Kumatora, Duster, Flint, Claus, and Boney.
Various Personas OF THE CHARACTERS IN YOUR HACK! (Persona series/Various Series): It is said to be the characters inner strength. You could use it to complete your characters development.
Legendary Pokemon (Pokemon): They are Pokemon, and they are Legendary.
Geno (Mario RPG): GENO WHIRL!
GILGAMESH (FINAL FANTASY V): If you keep any summon, make it Gilgamesh.
Buriki Daioh (Live A Live): A Giant Freaking Mech. Make it happen.
05-15-2011, 09:03 AM
Well, Those particular series/games have somewhat truncated roles for a variety of reasons. The Lufia series is somewhat obscure as far as RPGs go, with only one recent release in the past 5 years. Also, I'm including the Sinistrals, the most notable part of the series as bosses, so I think that does it justice.
Persona 4 doesn't get a lot of recognition for the same reason that, say, Dragon Quest 8 doesn't get a lot of recognition. There's already a PC from Persona 3 (and Dragon Quest 4). It's notable that Jack Frost is already a summon and a boss, too. Additionally, Persona's modern-day setting is actually a little out-of-place with the setting of CF6. After all, the characters in P4 can only use their powers when they're in a TV World... and it would take a LOT of graphics editing and event rescripting to make anything like that. I do kind of like the idea of using Personas of the PCs already chosen, though... but it would clash with Aigis' use of Persona-swapping, honestly.
Earthbound's weird modern-day setting is kind of hard to reconcile with CF6, too. But I turned Zozo into Moonside, which is where Ness is fought (he can't help it, it's the effect of Moonside's craziness or something). Really, I just wanted Ness in the game despite EB's setting being completely weird for the story/tone/setting I'm going for. Mr. Saturns are also random encounters.
Now, Mario RPG is a weird one. I generally didn't want to include series that -weren't- originally RPGs, but Mario RPG is -really- well-known, AND I have a special fondness for Geno, too. In the end, I just made the whole cast of Mario RPG into random encounters. Geno himself -might- have made a decent PC, but I couldn't figure out how to work his story into my plot, he's not -actually- the main character, and his skillset is REALLY small, so I was worried he might end up boring compared to the rest of the cast (and I'm already worried about that with Laharl, Ike, and Tir).
Laharl is there because he works well as Umaro. He's also the first sprite I ever drew for FF6, so I have some attachment to him. The reason the Prinnies got the Ghost slot is because there's no other possible awesome choice for replacing the Ghosts on the Phantom Train than the adorable Souls of the Damned in Penguin Costumes that explode when Thrown. If you can think of one, I will consider replacing them, but I doubt it exists.
On L.Pokemon: Note that Venusaur, Charizard, Blastoise, Lugia, Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina are summons. Pikachu is -playable- and there's a whole colony of them living in Narshe. Arceus may or may not end up a super boss (he was in Meeple Fantasy 6 and I like the idea, but I might nix him so that I won't steal more of poor Meeple's ideas).
As for Gilgamesh... I like him, but I don't have a sprite I like for him. His FF5/6 sprites just don't work with my hack and he's just too complicated for me to want to draw one of him.
Thanks for asking about the hack, though. I sometimes forget that a lot of my reasons for choosing certain series/characters aren't as obvious as I think.
Persona 4 doesn't get a lot of recognition for the same reason that, say, Dragon Quest 8 doesn't get a lot of recognition. There's already a PC from Persona 3 (and Dragon Quest 4). It's notable that Jack Frost is already a summon and a boss, too. Additionally, Persona's modern-day setting is actually a little out-of-place with the setting of CF6. After all, the characters in P4 can only use their powers when they're in a TV World... and it would take a LOT of graphics editing and event rescripting to make anything like that. I do kind of like the idea of using Personas of the PCs already chosen, though... but it would clash with Aigis' use of Persona-swapping, honestly.
Earthbound's weird modern-day setting is kind of hard to reconcile with CF6, too. But I turned Zozo into Moonside, which is where Ness is fought (he can't help it, it's the effect of Moonside's craziness or something). Really, I just wanted Ness in the game despite EB's setting being completely weird for the story/tone/setting I'm going for. Mr. Saturns are also random encounters.
Now, Mario RPG is a weird one. I generally didn't want to include series that -weren't- originally RPGs, but Mario RPG is -really- well-known, AND I have a special fondness for Geno, too. In the end, I just made the whole cast of Mario RPG into random encounters. Geno himself -might- have made a decent PC, but I couldn't figure out how to work his story into my plot, he's not -actually- the main character, and his skillset is REALLY small, so I was worried he might end up boring compared to the rest of the cast (and I'm already worried about that with Laharl, Ike, and Tir).
Laharl is there because he works well as Umaro. He's also the first sprite I ever drew for FF6, so I have some attachment to him. The reason the Prinnies got the Ghost slot is because there's no other possible awesome choice for replacing the Ghosts on the Phantom Train than the adorable Souls of the Damned in Penguin Costumes that explode when Thrown. If you can think of one, I will consider replacing them, but I doubt it exists.
On L.Pokemon: Note that Venusaur, Charizard, Blastoise, Lugia, Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina are summons. Pikachu is -playable- and there's a whole colony of them living in Narshe. Arceus may or may not end up a super boss (he was in Meeple Fantasy 6 and I like the idea, but I might nix him so that I won't steal more of poor Meeple's ideas).
As for Gilgamesh... I like him, but I don't have a sprite I like for him. His FF5/6 sprites just don't work with my hack and he's just too complicated for me to want to draw one of him.
Thanks for asking about the hack, though. I sometimes forget that a lot of my reasons for choosing certain series/characters aren't as obvious as I think.
06-01-2011, 06:21 PM
I've been making huge amounts of progress on this. About half of the spell animations are done. All preliminary items/equips are done (barring animations for Tools/Consumables/Weapons). A few new sprites are done. I have a scriptwriter now, so the story is in-progress. Biggest thing now is to finish up Boss Sprites and rework the monsters and I'll have a Beta. I may release an "Alpha" when I get the PCs done, using MF6's Monsters. This means that the balance will be shot to hell, but it might be fun for people to try it out.
Also, here's some of the custom boss sprites I've done. Melfice and Tio from Grandia II:
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Also, here's some of the custom boss sprites I've done. Melfice and Tio from Grandia II:
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06-02-2011, 03:02 AM
those are incredible man,
u need 2 get on skype ASAP (I got some custom sprites 4 u)
u need 2 get on skype ASAP (I got some custom sprites 4 u)
"Sometimes ninjas do wrong to each other, and in dat way the force of tha earf' comes around da moon - and at that presence, da dirt, it overshadows the grass, so you're like, I can't cut dis grass, there's no sun comin' through. So in order to enable each other the two fruits have to look each other in da eye and understand we can only be right, as da ripe is wrong, you know what I mean?"
-HNIC
06-02-2011, 07:17 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-02-2011, 08:09 AM by DjinnAndTonic.)
More Boss spriting! Millenia, also from Grandia 2 (I swear I'm done with Grandia 2 now)
Updated list of Bosses:
Games you should at minimum know to play this hack: FF6, Suikoden, Valkyrie Profile, Shadow Hearts 2, Grandia 2, Chrono Trigger, Breath of Fire 3
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FF6 Boss CF6 Boss Series
Whelk Ryu3Whelp Breath of Fire3
Marshal/NarsheGuards/Dogs Ghaleon/VileTribeGirls/WolfLaguz Lunar / FireEmblem
MTekArmor Gear Pilots Xenogears
Vargas/Ipoohs Asch/Replicas Tales of Abyss
Ultros1 Ultros FF6
ImpCampEnemies Melfice/Geohounds Grandia 2
Specter Neclord/MoonRune Suikoden
Siegfried MonsterZed Wild Arms
GhostTrain PhantomTrain/SoulEater Suikoden
TunnelArmr Hrist Valkyrie Profile
Rider/Guards Dalton (Sends out Golems~) Chrono Trigger
Kefka Kefka FF6
Dadaluma Ness Earthbound
Ultros2 Piastol Skies of Arcadia
Ifrit/Shiva JackFrost/Slime DQ/Persona
Experiment Tio Grandia 2
Experiment Indalecio Star Ocean 2
Cranes Sinistrals (Erim & GuardDhaos?) Lufia (Tales of Phantasia?)
FlameEater Lynx/TrueFireRune Chrono Cross / Suikoden
Ultros3 Lucied Wild Arms
Kefka/MTekArmors Kefka w/ValmarHorn guards FF6 / Grandia 2
ImpArmada1 Silmeria/Brahms Valkyrie Profile
ImpArmada2 Althena/DrgnMstrAlex Lunar (RPGMaker)
ImpArmada3 Sun Rune Suikoden
Gigantos Sword/Shield Runes Suikoden
AtmaWeapon Surt Valkyrie Profile
Nerapa Lezard Valkyrie Profile
Phumbaba CorruptMillenia Grandia 2
Tentacles Sovereign Rune Incarnation Suikoden
Presenter Yuber Suikoden
Dullahan Fina Skies of Arcadia
DoomGaze Freya (DoomGaze) Valkyrie Profile
IceDragon Fou-Lu Breath of Fire4
Tritoch Lugia/TrueDragonRune Pokemon / Suikoden
MasterPugs Etna Disgaea
Umaro Laharl Disgaea
StormDragon Magus Chrono Trigger
Allo Punishment Rune Suikoden
SrBehemoth Ashnard Fire Emblem
Shadow(Colloseum) Ike (Colloseum) Fire Emblem
Chadarnook BeastRune Incarnation (2 parts) Suikoden
DirtDragon Loki (OperaHouse) Valkyrie Profile
Hidon Teepo Breath of Fire3
DreamStooges Ozzie/Flea/Slash Chrono Trigger
Wrexsoul DreamDemonBeatrice Wild Arms
MasterKatana BenHyuga Shadow Hearts
BlueDragon SeraphicRadiance Shadow Hearts
ZoneEater TARTARUS(ZoneEater) Persona
RedDragon LAVOS CORE Chrono Trigger
WhiteDragon Zio Phantasy Star
MonsterinaBox DarkForce Phantasy Star
MagiMaster ProfoundDarkness Phantasy Star
Goddess Leknaat: T.Wtr, T.Wind, T.Charm, T.Ltg, T.Gate Suikoden
Poltergeist Ashera Fire Emblem
Doom Myria Breath of Fire
Kefka Kefka FF6
I still have a handful of bosses in Kefka's Tower and Monsters-in-a-Box left to choose, but otherwise, this is pretty much what I'm going for.
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Complete list of Game series even tangentially mentioned in this hack (in order of frequency) :
Must Know:
Final Fantasy
Suikoden
Valkyrie Profile
Major Plot/Bosses:
Grandia
Breath of Fire
Chrono Trigger
Shadow Hearts
You WILL See These In The Story:
Wild Arms
Tales series
Lunar
Xenogears/saga
Dragon Quest
Fire Emblem
Disgaea
Skies of Arcadia
Vague Knowledge is Enough:
Pokemon
Phantasy Star
Star Ocean
Persona
Mostly Just Enemies:
Earthbound
Kingdom Hearts
Golden Sun
Secret of Mana
Lufia
Cameos:
Legend of Dragoon
Atelier series
Mario RPG
SaGa Frontier
Arc the Lad
Yeah... 29 series is a lot to be familiar with, but mostly you can get by with just knowing the first 8 or so, and be happy when you catch a reference to another game you've played~
06-03-2011, 07:35 AM
Terra does not look too in black but some of the sprites need some originality, some of them look like Locke recolored but I know you'll be working on them. Its a good start, don't get me on the wrong foot here.
06-03-2011, 07:56 AM
Terra does not look too ... what? in black?
Also, yes, Claude is almost a direct recolor of Locke, but that's because Claude looks almost exactly like Locke...
The rest of the sprites are pretty original, though I do have plans to rework the palettes and do touch-ups. But for right now, I'm trying to just get something playable, so the main sprites are on-hold.
Also, yes, Claude is almost a direct recolor of Locke, but that's because Claude looks almost exactly like Locke...
The rest of the sprites are pretty original, though I do have plans to rework the palettes and do touch-ups. But for right now, I'm trying to just get something playable, so the main sprites are on-hold.
06-03-2011, 08:46 AM
I am so looking foward to this hack.
"Expect an early Winter with lots of snow!" Roan's Snowball Fight move
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheArcadianKnight
I'm a serious Grandia II fan and my all-time favorite character is Roan
06-03-2011, 10:23 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-03-2011, 10:25 AM by DjinnAndTonic.)
Buncha sprites update:
Some espers: I did these a while back, so they're not very good...
Asellus (SaGa Frontier), Reyson (Fire Emblem 10), and Seraphic Radiance (Shadow Hearts)
And from Wild Arms 3: Raftina, the Guardian of Love!
This one was soooo hard and it still turned out like crap. If anyone wants to help me fix it up, I'd be much obliged.
Some bosses:
Beatrice (Wild Arms 3), Mad King Ashnard (Fire Emblem 9), Gear Pilot Shion! (Xenosaga~)
Teepo, Whelp Ryu (Breath of Fire 3)
Ghaleon, Althena (Lunar)
Melfice, Tio, Millenia (Grandia 2)
The Three Goddesses - Myria (Breath of Fire), Leknaat (Suikoden), Ashera (Fire Emblem)
Royce (Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete)
Zoomed-in because I like how it turned out.
Some espers: I did these a while back, so they're not very good...
Asellus (SaGa Frontier), Reyson (Fire Emblem 10), and Seraphic Radiance (Shadow Hearts)
And from Wild Arms 3: Raftina, the Guardian of Love!
This one was soooo hard and it still turned out like crap. If anyone wants to help me fix it up, I'd be much obliged.
Some bosses:
Beatrice (Wild Arms 3), Mad King Ashnard (Fire Emblem 9), Gear Pilot Shion! (Xenosaga~)
Teepo, Whelp Ryu (Breath of Fire 3)
Ghaleon, Althena (Lunar)
Melfice, Tio, Millenia (Grandia 2)
The Three Goddesses - Myria (Breath of Fire), Leknaat (Suikoden), Ashera (Fire Emblem)
Royce (Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete)
Zoomed-in because I like how it turned out.
This hack is amazing, I love everything about it.
And these bosses are just awesome, everyone of them.
And these bosses are just awesome, everyone of them.
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